tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post1826271672779624991..comments2023-09-26T00:42:29.508-07:00Comments on Caritas in Veritate: I'm not ashamed to publish this email regarding Tesco and Gay PrideFather John Boylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10581732723849634398noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post-43767772921632257532011-12-13T11:32:09.506-08:002011-12-13T11:32:09.506-08:00http://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-ghosts-can-...http://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-ghosts-can-join-me-for/id166161570<br /><br />Nick Lansley still has the poem in audio form on his i-tunes channel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post-87183219890031881352011-12-05T10:24:43.672-08:002011-12-05T10:24:43.672-08:00Ben
Good reply. But there is a difference between...Ben<br /><br />Good reply. But there is a difference between acknowledging the disorder in a particular tendency and bullying. Same sex attraction is objectively disordered and those who experience it are bound to struggle against the temptation to engage in sexual relations with those of the same sex. This does not necessarily mean that they will suddenly become attracted to the opposite sex but they will be helped BY GOD'S GRACE to overcome a tendency which leads - if followed blindly - to sinful and unnatural behaviour.<br /><br />Whether homosexuality is something genetic, something that can be changed, is something for specialists to look into. What worries me is that young boys who experience emotional issues are being encouraged to follow a "gay" culture and lifestyle when with proper love and attention they could be led into a healthy marriage state or chaste single life.<br /><br />The "out at Tesco" is an aggressive campaign - and some of the antics in the "out at Tesco" videos which David links to are quite disgusting.<br /><br />As for Nick, what can I do? Of course I care. Do you? Do you know? Frankly I think he needs to be booted out of his job, or else keep his sexuality to himself. And that is the main issue. Public display of sexuality is not good. Men and women used never to manifest their love to one another in a demonstrative way in public, and neither would two men or two women together draw any attention. Now people do things in public that were once - and very properly - kept to the private sphere.Father John Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10581732723849634398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post-16947099594758337892011-12-05T06:26:42.213-08:002011-12-05T06:26:42.213-08:00Hi Father,
I think this is the heart of the matte...Hi Father,<br /><br />I think this is the heart of the matter. I'm not sure if David realises he is bullying but when he tells someone that an element of their very identity is wrong, then that is bullying. I can tell you that, unless you are bisexual, your sexuality is immutable, So when David says "On the other hand a homosexual is only homosexual when his imagination leads his emotions, desirers, actions, habits and character to become homosexual. This orientation can either become stronger or weaker. ", and closeted gay kids know this is a wrong message (because in this world with its attitude who would 'choose' to be gay?), then that is bullying.<br /><br />True Catholics, those with glasses etc are also bullied because of their perceived difference. That is utterly wrong. Why should Catholics or spectacle wearers be forced to change their religion or wear contacts? Why should gays, then? <br /><br />Now see what David is doing? <br /><br />Cheers<br />Ben <br /><br />P.S. We could debate whether David is also trying to bully Nick Lansley out of his job, since I note that the video he mentioned is no longer available. Are you able to check if Nick is OK? (Do you care if Nick is OK?).Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post-20580766190268919972011-12-04T16:45:21.954-08:002011-12-04T16:45:21.954-08:00Ben: Who on this blog has condoned bullying? Bully...Ben: Who on this blog has condoned bullying? Bullying is never right. To suggest that David Skinner's attitude is one that condones bullying is a huge leap.<br /><br />I would also add that I know kids who have gone through similar experiences to Johah because they are Catholic, or tall & thin (i.e. lanky), or have big ears, freckles, spots, or because they were glasses, or are bookish, or are bottom of the class, or because they don't have all the latest fashions, or their parents don't let them watch TV, or because they do not join in dirty jokes... I experienced bullying myself as a kid.<br /><br />It is the bullying that is wrong, not the alleged "reason" for which one is bullied.<br /><br />So let's all be really "adult" about this matter.Father John Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10581732723849634398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post-20214506782104363002011-12-04T12:54:22.833-08:002011-12-04T12:54:22.833-08:00Still Not Ashamed yet, David Skinner?
If not try t...Still Not Ashamed yet, David Skinner?<br />If not try this video from a kid who is suffering bullying thanks to attitudes like yours (you are supposed to be 'adults', remember?).<br /><br />Watch, then .. well the rest is up to you. One option is to decide that gay people need all the Pride they can get:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdkNn3Ei-LgBennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post-3146458228126806892011-11-27T17:47:04.259-08:002011-11-27T17:47:04.259-08:00I'm not so sure the "ignore it" argu...I'm not so sure the "ignore it" argument is valid. The late Cardinal Heenan was, apparently, encouraged to keep quiet when abortion was being debated. He regretted it, I think. What would have happened had he and the Church spoken out more in defence of the unborn?<br /><br />Freedom cannot be unfettered. The law may allow us to offend others, but we do not, I believe, have a human right to deliberately and provocatively offend others (which is not the same as claiming a right not to be offended). The poem is grotesque and disgusting, and the fact that people feel the need to recite it as a rite of affirmation shows that they have abandoned reason.Father John Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10581732723849634398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post-7441346971513606472011-11-27T16:25:07.651-08:002011-11-27T16:25:07.651-08:00The James Kirkup poem has acquired a cultural sign...The James Kirkup poem has acquired a cultural significance which goes beyond its literary merit precisely because so many Christians demanded it should be banned when it was published back in the 1970s. Mary Whitehouse and others waged a campaign against it, and were successful in getting the publisher prosecuted for blasphemy. As a result, the reading aloud of this poem has become a rite of affirmation of free speech. The people who created this situation, though, were over-reacting conservative Christians. If they'd ignored it, this poem would have been forgotten about decades ago.Scouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00843758098631948181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6845239886251312993.post-62943118037344982842011-11-26T16:41:45.699-08:002011-11-26T16:41:45.699-08:00Father Boyle
Thank you for posting this. It's...Father Boyle<br />Thank you for posting this. It's unbelievable!<br />On his YouTube reading of the poem Lansley says "Freedom of speech should have prevented the poem being found guilty of blasphemy, but editorial quality control should have prevented it from ever being published, as you will surely agree!"<br />Unbelievable! Why doesn't YouTube take the video down because it would cleary offend Catholics/Christians? What is Tesco management thinking...? I mean, Lansley is doing this in the face of so many Christian customers. It's baffling. Those poor Christian/Catholic employees. What do they do? Not everyone can just leave their job. And what about this 'family area' for children at the Pride march? What - so they don't see the strap-ons, nude bodies, S&M, leather, debauched behaviour? This is corruption of the young. And Lansley is so confident reading the poem. It's like the gays have become all-powerful as a group. God, please help my son grow up.Damask Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12903564104733536123noreply@blogger.com